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I thought this article was interesting and thought-provoking. I racked my brain for specific patient examples that illustrate my biases, but cannot come up with anything specific. I’m certain I have biases in my clinical decision making.
I can think of a bias that has affected my selection of strengthening and balance training recently. Jay Dicharry made an offhand comment during Running Medicine that stuck – he said something to the effect of “why would you put an athlete on an airex pad when their foot needs to get better at controlling motion on a flat surface; I use the balance board, not an airex”. I’m pretty sure I haven’t used the airex since as a way to add challenge to an exercise. What type of bias would you call that? I’m sure I should be weighing evidence on the subject instead of Jay’s opinion, but it made good sense to me, so it stuck.
Similarly, I stopped giving people the sleeper stretch after seeing many videos of Mike Reinold explaining why he rarely utilizes it. This example is different in that he conducted the research that found horizontal adduction stretching was more effective in improving internal rotation ROM than the sleeper stretch. However, it was likely his status as a credible expert that most impacted(biased) my thinking.
Justin PretlowParticipantHi Sarah, Thanks for posting.
What’s the medial gutter? Is that posterior to medial malleolus?
Agree with above- diff. dx BSI or posterior tibialis injury.
As for additional information – Have you already had the conversation about female triad components?
Were the SL Heel raises painful or just easily fatigueable? 8 reps seems odd if she has been doing some calf strengthening with her athletic trainer.Justin PretlowParticipantHi Jen,
Thanks for posting – Most of my initial thoughts are probably strategies you have already tried.
In terms of addressing his fear of movement – I think I’d stick to simple, non-threatening language, over and over again. I suppose I’d hammer home the point that the surgery fixated those segments but that can easily cause irritation, increased demand on all the tissue around that area. Describing the nervous system as irritated/angry, hurt not equal to harm.
I’m out of time but will think on this and address your other questions.Justin PretlowParticipantHere are some additional details about the case that may help paint a better picture.
Initial Eval was mid Sept 2017 when patient came to UVA as a first year. She had surgery June 2017 followed by 2 months of PT at home – had progressed to some hopping drills with previous PT.
MOI: playing football and collided with another student – SEPT 2016
Ortho consult/MRI NOV 2016.
Pt opted to delay surgery until after her senior year of high school was over to not interfere with busy schedule/academics.
I treated her for 7 total visits from mid Sept to mid Dec. Able to run 2 mile timed run test for ROTC by mid November.Justin PretlowParticipantConsidering biopsychosocial-
With this particular patient, I think confidence level and fear are playing a significant role. Evidenced by – she expressed that the running down hill during ROTC runs was the most concerning to her because she didn’t know if she was ready. Also evidenced by her dramatic pauses before SL hop testing as if she was about to jump off a high dive.
Ideally, I’d like to address this by providing her exercises and drills that build her confidence slowly over time.
I also think her maturity level has been an issue – meaning, we’ve had some good conversations about the rehab progress, timeline, appropriate progressions, quality over quantity. Afterwards – I’d think- that went well, maybe she finally gets it. Then at the next visit, she has done the exact opposite of what we discussed.Justin PretlowParticipantPer Sarah – Agreed that she still has some motor control deficits that become very evident during single leg testing. At previous visits, she has been able to improve her frontal plane knee motion with use of a mirror and extra cuing/education. I often used regressions of exercise with the mirror to show her how much better her control was if the exercise was more appropriate. I just didn’t succeed with getting much carry over. It often seemed like we had to review and teach the same concepts at each follow up.
I do think showing her ipad footage of some of the functional tests may be helpful to make sure she understands the significance of the deficits.Justin PretlowParticipantPer Sarah – Agreed that she still has some motor control deficits that become very evident during single leg testing. At previous visits, she has been able to improve her frontal plane knee motion with use of a mirror and extra cuing/education. I often used regressions of exercise with the mirror to show her how much better her control was if the exercise was more appropriate. I just didn’t succeed with getting much carry over. It often seemed like we had to review and teach the same concepts at each follow up.
I do think showing her ipad footage of some of the functional tests may be helpful to make sure she understands the significance of the deficits.Justin PretlowParticipantThanks for the clarification – that makes sense.
Glad to hear he’s responding so well.Justin PretlowParticipantHi Katie,
How did you make the decision to dry needle his adductors? I don’t know much about appropriate needling scenarios.Justin PretlowParticipantOne take away from the lab portion – the importance of taking objective measures/assessing from the same position every time to improve accuracy. I remember Jake Magel stressing this as well. For example, if you assess ER PROM supine with the patient’s elbow supported on your leg – then that’s how you want to re-assess it post manual, or next visit, etc.
Justin PretlowParticipantThigpen made a couple of really good points that stuck with me. He emphasized that he tries to stick with a consistent progression for athletes rehabbing their shoulder, for example. With a healthy athlete we may have a tendency to skip some of the more basic exercises. He tries to start them in the same place, but move through simpler exercises(eg in supine) more quickly for those who can – his point being that you can be more consistent and make sure that athletes are not missing the key components of a movement pattern.
I also like his idea of using a type of RPE(rate of perceived exertion) scale to help determine appropriate progression of strengthening exercises. For example – if an athlete finishes your whole session and rates his RPE at 3-4, they probably need to be pushed a little more.
Justin PretlowParticipantI really enjoyed Tim Uhl’s review of shoulder exercises with EMG findings as well. One great point he made when considering progression of a patient post Rotator cuff repair – Don’t underestimate the weight of the arm as a contribution to torque as it can make a very big difference in the difficulty of elevating the arm. As Katie said, short lever arm with elbows bent can be considered for many variations of elevation.
Tim also cited a 2017 JOSPT study by Edwards that lays out a nice chart of typical Shoulder rehab exercises and progressions based on EMG activity.Justin PretlowParticipantThanks Tyler – RDL’s are a good call – that was part of her HEP at some point but I don’t think she is still performing that specific exercise. Hopping to landing on airex or uneven surface is a good idea as well.
Katie- your point about testing when fatigued is a great reminder. Maybe I can have her run to the clinic before her next appointment so that I can retest her when fatigued.
As for the idea of aiming for 100% limb symmetry index scores for return to cutting/pivoting sports – this sounds like a very good idea to me. After reading the posted article and considering how LSI’s may overestimate a patient’s performance, it makes sense to me to elevate the bar.
I agree that I need to get her more involved in setting subgoals, or at least framing them as a positive challenge to be met, much like discussed at the conference on Thursday.
Justin PretlowParticipantThanks for the input –
My bad for omitting some of the objective measures that were WNL. MMT Quads 5/5 bilat at multiple angles. Left hamstring prone MMT 5/5 at 90/60/30 deg.
I had her demonstrate DL and SL line hops, 20 reps, fwd and lateral as a quick assessment before the single leg tests – slightly less precision with landing foot placement on right, but otherwise similar quality of movement.
Single Leg Hop for Distance (SLH) : Limb symmetry index(LSI) of 90%.
Triple Hop for Distance (TLH): LSI of 93%
Triple Hop Crossover for Distance: LSI of 93%
Quality of movement and control were not great – similar to SL squat, but the numbers surprised me. I thought her limb symmetry index might be much lower across those tests.Justin PretlowParticipantAfter sleeping on it, I think the article attached below is more appropriate for the journal club presentation. The JOSPT article I attached in previous post is interesting, but I will be presenting on the A. Gokeler, et al article attached below.
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